Wiki Software

luki9100 · September 23, 2020, 8:44am

Does anyone know any good wiki software?

I am currently maintaining a rather old mediawiki installation. Updating that thing to a new version is near impossible.
I am currently thinking of switching out the software completely, but cannot find anything that fits our needs:
-2 Factor with Yubikey
-LDAP
-Import from mediawiki
-Good looks (needs to impress a non technical guy)

I am happy to hear about any idea

(sorry if this is the wrong topic, I am new here xD)

Will · September 23, 2020, 11:55am

I am not able to say if it meets all of your requirements but I can say that I have used dokuwiki a few times in the past.

Well maintained, lots of good quality themes if the traditional wiki look isn’t to your taste and lots of useful documentation and plugins.

luki9100 · September 23, 2020, 12:03pm

Thanks for the idea.
How are the updates managed? Do you need to replace files (like in mediawiki) or is it managed through the interface?

Will · September 23, 2020, 12:05pm

I’ve not used mediawiki so I’m not familiar with their upgrade routine but it seems to be similar i.e. unpack the new version on top of the current version.

Full details here:
https://www.dokuwiki.org/install:upgrade

skorous · September 23, 2020, 1:48pm

Doesn’t Dokuwiki have a plug-in you can install to button-click upgrade between versions? I don’t have access to mine at the moment but I’m pretty sure that’s how I upgraded the last time.

Will · September 23, 2020, 1:50pm

It absolutely does. I forgot about that. Good thinking!

@luki9100 here you go:
https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:upgrade

luki9100 · September 23, 2020, 1:52pm

Thanks, for the headsup. You definitely have to do a lot via plugins. The default skin is straight from the 90s and creating pages and stuff is a bit harder then just “click one button and done” (like in wiki.js or xwiki).
Except for that it ticks all the boxes.
-Yubikey support
-LDAP
-Theming

Will · September 23, 2020, 1:58pm

Yeah the plugins can be a bit strange but I suppose it is good from a bloat perspective. You get a very very clean install out the box and only add what you need. It also has a plugin installer (like WordPress) built in so you don’t even have to upload the zips.

In terms of the theme, it is out of the 90s by default but there’s a huge number of good quality themes here all for free: template [DokuWiki]

Also, you can add a button to creat pages quite easily using the buttons plugin: plugin:button [DokuWiki]

Anyway, I don’t work for Dokuwiki or anything and there are of course other solutions out there, but if it hits the functions that are probably harder to find - such as the Yubikey stuff - it could be worth the extra setup to get it where you need it in terms of themes and plugins

skorous · September 23, 2020, 2:11pm

It’s out of the 90s because it’s pretty much instantly recognizable as a Wiki trademark.

I like Dokuwiki because the Docker instance didn’t require setting up a mysql instance. Since I’m only using it to create a dozen or two pages to document stuff for myself setting up a database seemed like extra work for minimal gain.

Rovox · September 23, 2020, 3:17pm

Never had time to set it up. But i’m stil looking at https://wiki.js.org/

luki9100 · September 24, 2020, 5:40am

I tried wiki.js .
It is nice, but it does not fit my needs. It is basically a one-man show and a lot of nice stuff is planned for the future (like YubiKey Support), but it is not here ATM.

K4Y5 · September 24, 2020, 8:37am

Works rather well. Polished UI too. Not sure about import routes from other 3rd party apps though.

luki9100 · September 24, 2020, 8:45am

Thanks, I took a look at that too, but I did not find anything about YubiKey support. Do you know if it is supported?

luper769 · September 24, 2020, 12:02pm

I use Bookstack with the Oauth google integration. From there on, you are able to connect a yubikey to your Google account. I imagine that some of the other Oauth providers bookstack support the yubikey as well. Documentation on Oauth providers: Third Party Authentication · BookStack

Poli · September 24, 2020, 12:25pm

I use Wiki.JS (I mean I started using it recently) and it works really great for me.

https://wiki.polisystems.ch/en/home

luki9100 · September 24, 2020, 12:52pm

It’s a nice feature, but unfortunately not usable for my usecase. I need LDAP Authentication and Yubikey at the same time.

luki9100 · September 24, 2020, 12:56pm

WikiJS is very nice, but unfortunately YubiKey authentication is not available at the moment. For a private system it is perfect, but from a company standpoint, where you want to have your information stored as secure as possible, this is a no-go.

Rovox · September 24, 2020, 1:19pm

Well another would be Confluence | Your Remote-Friendly Team Workspace | Atlassian

Not free, but does support all the requests (trough marketplace apps!)

luki9100 · September 25, 2020, 7:44am

So this is what I have so far:

Confluence:
-very expensive, I do not think I will get my boss to transfer this much money to a company in the US

Wiki.js:
+good looks
+easy to set up and maintain
+LDAP integration
+Git integration (useful for media wiki import)
-one man show
-no ETA for YubiKey support
-unknown how long it will be supported and maintained

BookStack:
+LDAP Support
+Good looks
-no media wiki import
-no YubiKey support with LDAP Auth

DokuWiki:
+Mediawiki import
+LDAP Auth
+YubiKey support
-needs many plugins to work correctly (as we need it)
-needs a Theme to look good

So far DokuWiki looks like the best option, but I still do not like the extension approach, since the whole installation can break in an update if the extension maintainer decides to stop maintaining the extension.
This is what happened to our current media wiki installation and it makes it very hard to update, since we need to rewrite the whole config.