Mostly, I am just trying not to use wordpress if I don’t have to.
Obviously some imperfections in my implementation but for virtually no effort I’m pretty happy about it. The templates are just HTML with PHP inserted at various points to fill in this or that variable, making them an easy target for tearing down to see how they did it as opposed to reading documentation.
I can’t agree with you here.
Joomla not only proven to be way secure than other CMS (hint hint WordPress), won already several awards in its category, is well maintained (as in regular bug/security updates), and it’s 3rd party extensions/plugins/modules/components market is looked after . A good example of the later is a developer getting kicked out of the market.
You sure you’re not thinking of Joomla 1.5 (soon after Mambo departure)?
I do not know Joomla that well, I haven’t used it much for years. I do use it often to do some small tasks for customers, and I gotta tell you, the amount of issues it has compared to WordPress, is crazy.
WordPress, not referring to the plugins. I’ve never seen an updated WordPress setup, vanilla, being compromised. The plugins are the issue. Though if you want something for production, I believe WordPress wins there.
I think your customers are running an outdated, or awfully developed Joomla website. Probably both.
I know my way around Joomla, and been using it since version 1.5, which was not all that long since the team behind Joomla moved away from Mambo.
I can tell you that the evolution to 3.8 is nothing short of pretty darn amazing. And I’m itching for Joomla 4 which will be a native Bootstrap 4 and PHP7 CMS. (J3.8 is already PHP7 compatible, but works on top of 5.6. And its Bootstrap 2 even if you can run Bootstrap 3 with the right framework).
As for WordPress, whenever I work with a WordPress website, I hate how convoluted the templates/pages design/build are. Widgets everywhere and whatnot. Visual this, visual that… fk me…
Joomla is way way way way cleaner.
Where Joomla is currently losing is with the Admin UI, from the POV of a regular user. Something J4 is addressing as they had to give in to the reality that to speed up adoption by website owners, Joomla admin board needs to impress the website owner, instead of being easy for developers.
Another thing WordPress did better than all the others, was their approach to their demographics, they did it well, they marketed it well, and now they just live of their mass adoption that keeps bringing them people while other CMS’s have to actually fight for a share.
But I grant you that the biggest problem with any CMS is the compromised plugins/etc. And even if that was not enough of a security risk, there’s no shortage of people installing nulled plugins/templates/etc to save a few bucks.
Resurrecting this topic to share the following.
I have several Joomla websites sitting on an Aruba €1 vps. They all work pretty well (playgound, not production), I wanted to add a WordPress website to that collection… and the experience was horrible, slow as fuck on the backend, frontend was a little better.
1 point to Joomla.